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- Erich (*.217.186.pool.telefonica.de) (2010-07-15 20:19:19.603321)
Exactly, i was dead certain that it would be a Kassel-Tram...
- dvigar (195.93.21.*) (2010-07-15 20:29:19.756182)
These trams were typical in Germany from the mid-1960s.
- dvigar (195.93.21.*) (2010-07-15 21:05:00.146079)
I think the buses in Germany were pretty good, too, but I never travelled on one at the time. If you go to Germany, you will see that public transport is still fantastic.
I have to admit I also thought of Kassel at first, but they never painted theirs in these colours and their number 223 was a four-wheeler. This isn't a DÜWAG GT6, though. It might have been built by Crede and it is a GT4 with two rigid trucks. I can't find any information on this batch on the web, but I suspect they were built in the mid-1950s and replaced in the mid-1970s when Würzburg got new DÜWAG GT8s as well as ex-Hagen DÜWAG GT6. The 1967 DÜWAGs you're thinking of look different: http://www.nahverkehr-franken.de/strassenbahn/img/wsb_gtw-d8.jpg (taken after the 1982 extension to GT8, of course).
Is that a Crede or Wegmann? By the way - Keep 'em coming, Dave!
Like Stefan, I saw this as a GT4 and not a GT6, but GT6 was what the wagenparkliste on the web seemed to be telling me, even though my eyes saw different. I have consulted the WSB history book and can confirm ths is what WSB called a C-Wagen, built by Crede in 1959.
straphan: Wegmann, Crede, they look all the same to me. I'm from the middle of DÜWAG-land, I'm not meant to be able to tell such inferior products apart. :p
Dave: 1959 then, so I wasn't too far off. Anything on when they were replaced and what happened to them (scrap, I presume)?- dvigar (195.93.21.*) (2010-07-18 12:20:55.894699)
The WSB history book (or at least, the one I have) doesn't have a fleet list. They renumbered everything in the 1960s, just to ocnfuse us. Also, as the book is written entirely in German, I'm at something of a disadvantage! However, it looks like they bought twelve of these new in the years 1959 to 1964 and scrapped them all - the book says "verschrottet" in 1975, when Düwag GT8 cars #270-281 arrived. What a pity Arad, Iasi etc. weren't then in the market for cheap trams.......
Yes, that would figure. Not sure these two-rooms-and-a-bath cars would have been much of a joy for any other operator, though. Their ride comfort was hardly anything to write home about (unless you're a tramspotter, of course!) and many of the ones built in the 1950s re-used pre-war trucks and/or motors.
- dvigar (195.93.21.*) (2010-07-20 12:12:57.093033)
....yes, WSB withdrew from service a suspiciously similar number of 1930s MAN cars at about the same time as the Crede cars appeared - draw your own conclusions
- Sebastian (*.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (2015-05-28 22:25:01.571912)
Great picture of a real beauty
But this picture can`t be taken in "Kaiserstrasse" but in "Schönbornstraße". In the background you can see a great warehouse named "Kaufhof" and it still exists till today at the same place in Würzburg. Now there`s a pedestrian zone since a couple of years.
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